Anonymous Communication on the Internet (1)

darius2

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May 02 2007, 00:57 (UTC+3) *.137.99.20

Anonymous Communication on the Internet

I am writing my graduation paper on this topic so I will be pleased to read and answers to any goldresources, suggestions, advices, etc.

To be or not to be Anonymous/Secure.

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May 02 2007, 01:08 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

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Anonymous Communication on the Internet


What exactly do you mean? To make a anonymous connection socket to a HTTP deamon?

Maybe a Proxy server could provide you a relative anonymous connections to different HTTP servers. If this idea is not nice enough, than think about an TCP socket spoof or something related to it.



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May 02 2007, 01:30 (UTC+3) *.137.99.20

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Well as a practical example of a Anonymouse Communication i thought of:

1) ClientX-Server(s)-ClientY
where to use datagram, Server to Server message-exchange to loose the source, CNS – Client Name Servers😛

2) An Anonymouse Gateway Server (or at least a Fast, Small, Secure – Elite HTTP Proxy)

3) Or something else…

but i would like to get informations regardin the status of the anonymity this days and also relevant information about consolidating the anonymouse comunication today.

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May 02 2007, 02:05 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Well, the greatest problem today in the Network privacy, I guess is the ISP. Basicaly you can’t be absolutely anonymouse. If you connect throught a remote hacked WLAN Network to the internet, you’re pretty anonymous.



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T-Ping

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May 02 2007, 02:17 (UTC+3) *.xmission.com

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

ISPs are a serious problem…

think about that…
How can you be anonymous using a DNS server (your ISP’s one) which is sniffing all the traffic that passes by.

Even by using TOR you are not anonymous if you haven’t select to pass the DNS traffic through your SOCKS proxy.

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May 02 2007, 03:28 (UTC+3) *.dhcp.knwk.wa.charter.com

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

AND.. Big brother is always watching! lol



Me! *Me*! I’m the guy! I know everyone! Their habits, who they hang out with, who they talk to! I’ve got phone numbers, addresses! I know who they’re fuckin! I know where they *live*! We could kill **everyone.**

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May 02 2007, 03:33 (UTC+3) *.hol.gr

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

LOL PJ2073

If your are crazy enough with anonymity you can try to connect to a remote host using SSL/VPN, then using this remote host connect through TOR network to a high anonymous proxy server and finally go to your target host… BUT … if the TOR network’s node that your traffic exits from is sniffing its traffic then you are still insecure😦

The TOR network provides encryption only inside the TOR network, the exit nodes use unencrypted connections😦😦😦

Damn… We will never be secure!

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May 02 2007, 12:38 (UTC+3) *.222.240.174

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

encryption and proxies, by nature of the Internet if we want to receive data we have to be identifiable.

I fancy a tor exit node that doesn’t know where the data came from over my ISP🙂

None the less, I won’t be logging into any sites …



Think inside the box!

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T-Ping

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May 02 2007, 13:11 (UTC+3) *.79.242.48

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Exactly.

The only thing that maybe protect us against the ISPs sniffers is encyption… but even then, we should not forget the America’s „code makers and code breaker”….;)
Who are, as we all know… not only America’s….

Of course there is always the PGP solution…

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May 02 2007, 13:22 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

T-Ping wrote:
We will never be secure!


Yes and no. I belive that you can have a layer of privacy on the internet, but ofcourse we will never be absolutely anonymous as you pointed out.



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May 02 2007, 13:30 (UTC+3) *.129.170.20

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Correct.

But maybe we are protecting our privacy from the wrong side…

Is it more important to protect my privacy from the NewOrder than from the above mentioned „codemakers and codebreakers” ?

It is just that we can not protect ourselves against them.

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May 02 2007, 14:08 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

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Is it more important to protect my privacy from the NewOrder?


That depends from what privacy? You mean protecting your privacy by hiding the IP address or by hiding your private information.

For the first one is no need. I don’t know why people on NewOrder use HTTP Proxy deamons. For the second one, it depends from the person. For one person there is no problem at all to tell you his name or surname, and for the other is this kind of privacy very important. I think that people should shut up about this second point.

PS: If you really want, you can get such informations.



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May 02 2007, 14:31 (UTC+3) *.9.0.56

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

NewOrder was only an example, the significant part was the second one.

We cannot protect ourselves from the real threat, because they make the rules for this „game”.

P.S.: When I’m saying „privacy” I mean the electronic anonymity.

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May 02 2007, 14:49 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

In Europe, the ISP’s are making the rules for the „game”. For about 2-3 mounts, our ISP has got a guideline for loging the data flowing throught the server, so there isn’t actually privacy any more.



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T-Ping

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May 02 2007, 19:35 (UTC+3) *.ikk.sztaki.hu

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Actually, here in Greece this „logging time” is 6 months, at least it was six months last time I checked, two or three months ago.

But trust me this is nothing in comparison to the „famous” load balancers and the popular „codebreakers”

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May 02 2007, 21:49 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

What popular ‘Code Breakers’?



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May 02 2007, 22:27 (UTC+3) *.87-15-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

http://www.nsa.gov/intro.htm

Don’t tell me that you have never heard anything for the relation between NSA and almost every encryption used.

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May 03 2007, 17:54 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Ofcourse I did. I misunderstood you, thats actually my fault. I thought that you ment a specific team\group, when you wrote ‘Code Breakers’.



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May 03 2007, 19:02 (UTC+3) *.191.51.214

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

LOL😛

It was my fault actually.

It is just that this NSA’s motto is like a trademark of it, that’s why I’m using it so often instead of the agency’s name.

Anyway, that’s an additional reason for feeling insecure… but as I said earlier on this thread, we can use PGP encryption but unfortunately not for every communication😦

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May 03 2007, 20:43 (UTC+3) *.58.17.63

Re: Anonymous Communication on the Internet

Yeah, its really useful for E-Mail encryption, becouse there aren’t smaller keys than 128 bit’s.



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